Dell Nvidia GPU Issues

Recently, as a birthday present, my parents split the price of a new laptop with me. I wanted something sleek with a good screen, and, very importantly, a smaller than 15.4″ screen size.

I settled on the Dell XPS M1330. It was the obvious choice, as it ticked all the boxes, and had a decent 128MB graphics chip for when I play the odd game.


The laptop had a discount of about €200 at the time, and I also availed of a company discount from the company I worked for during the summer, I specced out a top of the range model,

Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz, 4GB RAM, WLED Screen, 320GB HDD, the works basically.

It came to €1166, a good saving on the €1400 it would have cost without my discounts.

I got the laptop and was delighted, it looks fantastic and doesn’t sacrifice style over substance. Then I spotted something on Engadget that worried me.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/all-nvidia-8400m-8600m-chips-faulty/

That includes the chip in my laptop.. The upshot is that my laptop could fail at any second due to this problem, and Dell and Nvidia know about it.

But thats ok, because I’m still under warrenty, phew..if it breaks I can just send it back and they’ll fix it…

By replacing the faulty graphics chip with another, ALSO FAULTY chip!!

Am I the only one who sees this as contravening my consumer rights? As I remember from my secondary school Business Studies class (and well I should, I got an A!) under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act of 1980 goods must be, as described, fit for their purpose and of merchantable quality.

How can a chip that Dell have admitted is faulty (see here and here) be considered fit for purpose and of merchantable quality?? A shop keeper cannot legally sell you a cup, if it is, in fact, broken.

Dells answer to this first of all was to issue a BIOS update, which I personally haven’t availed of, because all it does is run the fan more often, slightly prolonging the time to failure, not fixing the underlying problem. Now they are offering a 1 year warranty upgrade, which is some comfort, but really all it means is that they’ll keep replacing faulty chips with more faulty chips for an extra year.

Can anyone say flustercuck?!

What is the solution? Simple, a full recall is not needed, and the warranty upgrade is a step in the right direction, I have no problem using my laptop with the faulty chip as long as it doesn’t fail, but I don’t want to send it back if it does and get a new faulty chip in return. I would be satisfied if Dell said they would replace all returned laptops with either a non faulty Nvidia chip, or alternatively, an ATi chip.

Surely the expense of replacing the chips with another different model would be less than having to replace the faulty chip over and over again? Some people commenting on the Direct 2 Dell blog have had to send their Laptop back 3 times!

Come on Dell! Get the finger out! Give us a real solution to the problem, less stalling and stop gap measures!

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  • islandgirlst
    This is an enormous problem that stretches across Dell, HP, and Apple. My experience has been with an HP DV9535nr - two motherboard failures within 14 months. The first one was still under warranty, the second one, two weeks past warranty and they want $1,000 to repair. Lots of angry HP customers at:

    http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1274587&admit=109447626+1226087384495+28353475
  • slibuntu
    Exactly my point. It's amazing the incompetence of this whole thing. I'll certainly think twice before going for Dell again.
  • dhughes
    Rather than type out everything, I'm just copying my post from the DELL blog site.
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    I posted back when this blog was first posted, about prior problems with my Inspiron 9300 and it's Nvidia card (that went bad). At that time I had just purchased another DELL Inspiron 1720, and had problems with it the first time I booted it up.

    Since then, I've been following the suggestions and contacted DELL support, have updated the Bios, (no good) used the DELL chat several times (no help).. wrote to TECH support too many times, and was told to do this and that.. and all would be well (NOT). I even went ahead and sent it in to the repair depot, got it back and within 2 days the same problem reared it's ugly head.

    So, I wrote again to the Tech support, and explained this to them (along with some minor issues about the condition in which my laptop was returned, scratched and with some goo on it)~ explained to them that the problem wasn't fixed and asked just what they did when they "repaired" it?

    Was told the card had been replaced.(?) Tech says, send it back again and I promise it will really be fixed this time...and he needed to "check the series of batch of video cards we have to look in the video card that is present in the system". So, I asked him if this was the case, WHY wouldn't they have checked this PRIOR to installing it? The reply?

    I would like to inform you that there is no such issues going on with any batch of video cards. It is just a rare chance that you have got the issue again in the system.

    I am BEYOND frustrated, and so I checked back here to see if there was any NEW news on the subject, and find nothing really new, and MY system isn't even included in the list of ones that will at least get an extended warranty (so I can spend the next 2 years sending it back in every two weeks!).

    I've taken photo's of the many different times since August that the card has tweeked and garbled my graphics or caused a spontaneous shutdown.

    NOT a happy DELL customer!
    D.Hughes
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